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Who should've been left out of the squad?
Owen Hargreaves 61%  61%  [ 11 ]
Aaron Lennon 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Scott Carson 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Theo Walcott 22%  22%  [ 4 ]
Michael Carrick 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Jermaine Jenas 16%  16%  [ 3 ]
other 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
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greeny

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:34 am    Author: greeny    Post subject: Who shouldn't be in the England squad?

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Who do you think Sven should've left out?


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golden_touch19

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:04 pm    Author: golden_touch19    Post subject:

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Owen "my hair's better than my football skills" Hargreaves


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greeny

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:09 pm    Author: greeny    Post subject:

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I don't understand why he was picked for the squad at all.


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Maud

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:57 pm    Author: Maud    Post subject:
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Owen "my hair's better than my football skills" Hargreaves


I agree, he is useless really and totally not needed (if he goes on to score a miracle goal then Im deleting this, lol)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 3:35 pm    Author: simone    Post subject:

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I have to say that Owen Hargreaves should have been left out. I really dont think hes good enough for England & hes not even English hes Caniadan. i just hope that steve McClarnen has more sense & keeps him out of the squad


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Maltus

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 6:31 pm    Author: Maltus    Post subject:

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golden_touch19 wrote:
Owen "my hair's better than my football skills" Hargreaves


Everyone hates him but he makes Bayern Munich's team every week. As such, he has top level experience in the Champions League too with a quality team. I think he gets a hard press, its dificult to make an impact if you're only on for 20 minutes or so, and thats all England fans will ever have really seen of him as he doesn't play domestically.

Jermaine Jenas is the one who should have been left out, he's a nothing player and we have enough players in his position better than him already in the squad.

I would have taken Defoe as a 5th striker instead of Jenas.

Interesting how Crouch isn't on the list when only a few months ago he was the national pariah! He's gone from zero to hero in no time. Odds on him getting the World Cup Golden Boot?! :-D


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:29 pm    Author: Power5    Post subject:
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Hargreaves and Jenas are not going to turn matches for us, and I can't understand their inclusion at the expense of another couple of strikers.

Walcott is a big gamble and needed backing up with at least one more striker of Premiership experience. I think Lennon could have an impact off the bench, and Carrick hasn't really had a chance to prove himself yet. Carson, well he hasn't played much at the top level but where are the alternative 3rd choice keepers?

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:33 pm    Author: Deal or No Deal?    Post subject:
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Hargreaves hasn't produced for England in my view but I think he is a decent footballer (to be a 1st team regular at Bayern Munich has to be a good thing). If I was to name one player that I would take out, it would be Walcott. I'm not convinced as to what he can add to the side.

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Maltus

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:37 pm    Author: Maltus    Post subject:

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Power5 wrote:
Hargreaves and Jenas are not going to turn matches for us, and I can't understand their inclusion at the expense of another couple of strikers.

Walcott is a big gamble and needed backing up with at least one more striker of Premiership experience. I think Lennon could have an impact off the bench, and Carrick hasn't really had a chance to prove himself yet. Carson, well he hasn't played much at the top level but where are the alternative 3rd choice keepers?


Richard Wright should be 3rd choice I think, or Kirkland but he's injured.

An injury to Robinson would be devastating.


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golden_touch19

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 8:55 pm    Author: golden_touch19    Post subject:

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Maltus wrote:
Power5 wrote:
Hargreaves and Jenas are not going to turn matches for us, and I can't understand their inclusion at the expense of another couple of strikers.

Walcott is a big gamble and needed backing up with at least one more striker of Premiership experience. I think Lennon could have an impact off the bench, and Carrick hasn't really had a chance to prove himself yet. Carson, well he hasn't played much at the top level but where are the alternative 3rd choice keepers?


Richard Wright should be 3rd choice I think, or Kirkland but he's injured.

An injury to Robinson would be devastating.


Don't. Just don't. You're tempting fate! Without Robinson our team would be nothing. David James seems more concerned with his own appearance than stopping the ball entering the net - an injury to PR doesn't bear thinking about.


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never_wrong

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:04 pm    Author: never_wrong    Post subject:

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Maltus wrote:
Power5 wrote:
Hargreaves and Jenas are not going to turn matches for us, and I can't understand their inclusion at the expense of another couple of strikers.

Walcott is a big gamble and needed backing up with at least one more striker of Premiership experience. I think Lennon could have an impact off the bench, and Carrick hasn't really had a chance to prove himself yet. Carson, well he hasn't played much at the top level but where are the alternative 3rd choice keepers?


Richard Wright should be 3rd choice I think, or Kirkland but he's injured.

An injury to Robinson would be devastating.


Sorry, as an Everton fan, I have to say that that would be ludicrous! Have you seen him play the past few years? But I agree that there really is no-one else after Robinson and Calamity James. That's the problem when all the big clubs have foreign keepers.


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greeny

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:58 pm    Author: greeny    Post subject:

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As an Evertonian myself, I can say Wright is useless.


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KP

PostPosted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:49 pm    Author: KP    Post subject:
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Walcott I'm not sure of, but the problem was not that he was included but that he was included instead of Defoe instead of alongside him. Picking him as one of only two fit strikers in the squad at the time was plainly absurd.

Hargreaves is undervalued because he doesn't play in the Premiership and he's a defensive midfielder - the single most undervalued role on the field, and the one England need most to free up their abundant talent in attacking midfield positions (the only reason I still give them a prayer).

Downing and Lennon provide useful cover in wide midfield positions - thank goodness, seeing as Chelsea killed off SWP's career by buying him to stop Arsenal buying him.

I'd say Jenas is the waste, because the squad has enough creative midfield talent and I can't see how it would help to substitute him on.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:49 pm    Author: the1pclub    Post subject:
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Maltus wrote:
Interesting how Crouch isn't on the list when only a few months ago he was the national pariah! He's gone from zero to hero in no time. Odds on him getting the World Cup Golden Boot?! :-D


Just checked on Ladbrokes site - he's at 40/1!....I am tempted..... :D

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