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5.1, 5.2 etc... forever more?
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wokoman88

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:04 pm    Author: wokoman88    Post subject: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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Whilst it may not have appeared with Em today, it has to be said that an offer after every box is extremely effective at adding to the tension of a game. Should it be in the game forever more? It would certainly encourage more risk-taking, and that's all we can ask for....

Also, where do you think this has been seen at it's most effective in the games it has appeared? £15k Chris and Ben were pointless IMO, Derek's was good, however I think the best game with this in was Halloween Tina's, a game which to this day ranks in my favourite 10.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:14 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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Yes. It increases the number of big decisions to make in a game, which to me at least is what makes the show appealing.

It worked well in Orry's game with two big amounts, and would have worked very well today (though maybe not as well as the other twist did!). Tina, yes, that was a good one.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:26 pm    Author: Big-Davey    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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I've selected No - yes it would create more decisions, but the main bulk of game is to gamble on multiple box openings, not one at a time. It's a great twist, don't get me wrong, but it shouldn't become furniture.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:30 pm    Author: cookie_monster    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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I selected No - I think it shouldn't be overused, and should only be used where it is needed...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:31 pm    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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Make that 5-3-3-3-3-2-1 as an add-on, I'll agree. and then to make it more fun, Open two after eight-box with an offer at squashdown and then a box thereafter.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 6:38 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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Absolutely not


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Tom22

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:01 pm    Author: Tom22    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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Nah. It's a nice twist but I think it does kill tension a bit sometimes when someone would have gone on in normal circumstances but the deals after 1 box.

Plussss.... it means I have to do more stats more quickly... :smt011 :P

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 7:04 pm    Author: greeny    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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It'd be pointless with an all blue finish, but I think it should be used permanently, but that's just me.


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Tom

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:15 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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Na, while it is a nice addition/twist..it should only be used sparingly.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:45 pm    Author: jonny    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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I don't know. Perhaps a 5-5-4-3-2-1 format would be best. I think it would suit the game slightly better...

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Michael DeVere

PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:48 pm    Author: Michael DeVere    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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I like it, but think it should only be used every so often. Such as when they have special weeks or the Banker decides to throw it for no apparent reason.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:04 pm    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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No. I think it makes the decision for the player a lot harder when they've got to open 3 boxes until the next offer. Also, I think it's more tense when there's three boxes to open.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:00 pm    Author: daniel123    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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In a word, NO.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 8:25 pm    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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Yes I think it should become a permanent decision actually. If not, I'd either like to see it reserved for special occasions only as I think it's a bit odd when the banker just randomly throws it in like he did with Chris recently.

An offer after every box does mean it's easier to no deal the 5-box offer, but with the right board, there could be some cracking games which feature 4-box / 3-box deals / no deals.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:29 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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Games like Patricia's in other words!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 1:55 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?

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No, but I do like it used occasionally. Conentional games hwere one big number remains at 5-box get more exciting if the next two boxes are blues, just as much as one to open games are, especially when it gets avoided for the third box. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:04 am    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: Should 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 be a permanent addition?
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I was going to discuss this twist in today's show thread but thought it'd make more sense to do it in here...

KP in today's show thread wrote:
If Endemol want Wakeyism then one-box rounds late in the game are clearly the way to do it on this week's evidence. People get seduced by the idea of 'just one more box' and then either they crash (as happened on Tuesday) or if they don't, cut and run at the clear-cut final decision (as happened today and Monday).


Definitely. I find the twist very interesting as you seem to have those who are sucked into it and play on to increase their offers; those who want to chase the offers after no dealing a higher one; those who want to deal soon after 5-box so as to not push it too far and those who mis-use it totally by not getting to 5-box. We saw all those examples this week for Halloween.

How many occasions has the "offer after every box" been used now? The first instance was stats man Ned wasn't it? And then it was guaranteed for for the 2 primetime Christmas specials in 2006 and show 500 in 2007. Then we had it as part of the trick / treat twist in Halloween 2007, Christmas 2007 (Santa / Scrooge), Banker's Birthday Week in May 2008 (with the cards), Summer Specials in July 2008 (Sunshine / Sunburn) and Halloween 2008.

As well as the Christmas, banker's birthday, summer and Halloween specials, I think it'd be good if the "trick / treat" method was used for Valentine and Easter as well - that way we'd get 6 weeks per year of shows which could potentially have the 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 format. This year, the Valentine's and Easter specials saw similar twists but they didn't involve extra offers as far as I can remember (except the Valentine's shows which involved the heart necklace and one offer after the person with the necklace was chosen to open their box).

Of course looking at the number of times the "treat" option has been revealed, it's possible the specials could result in a load of shows with no extra offers and tricks / sunburns instead (although they're also interesting!). Therefore it might be nice if we also had a few shows a year where the 5-3-3-3-3-1-1-1 format was guaranteed... perhaps for every 100th show (e.g. 700, 800, 900, etc.) and also for shows with increased jackpots and the annual birthday shows. Another twist would be to give it to the Christmas Stars too...

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