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Most annoying advice from the wings
"If it was me I'd go on but you need to deal" 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
"Good offer" (when it isn't!) "think about this one very carefully" 33%  33%  [ 7 ]
"I've got a feeling it's your lucky day" 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
"You know what you need to do" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
"Remember the conversation we had last night" 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
"I don't want to see you go home with a blue" 14%  14%  [ 3 ]
(At 5 box) "you have 4 blues to aim at so you'll probably have an all blue round" 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
"How lucky are you feeling?" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
"Really good offer but I think you've got one more round" 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
"you're only here once think about that" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
"you need to do what's right for you" 4%  4%  [ 1 ]
"don't listen to any advice at the end of the day it's your decision!" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
"how much courage have you got?" 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
All of the above is excellent advice 9%  9%  [ 2 ]
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rico7

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:56 am    Author: rico7    Post subject: Advice from the wings
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There are a number of comments that come from the wings when giving advice that can be very annoying imo

Sometimes contestants on the wings will say something helpful but can ruin a game if they give the wrong advice. :?

Have a look at the list and vote for the one you find the most annoying or if you like them all
you can vote for that option too! :D


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KP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:24 am    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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I want to pick about seven of those!! Let's run through every single one of them.


"If it was me I'd go on but you need to deal" Read 'Deal, but I'm trying to look like a Wakeyist because the production encourages this
"Good offer" (when it isn't!) "think about this one very carefully" Why is this always said when it shouldn't be, and not when it should?!?
"I've got a feeling it's your lucky day" And I've got a feeling you're buying into Noel's spiritualist Wakeyism if you say this!
"You know what you need to do" Erm, no, that's why you were asked! That is at least non-commital and amusing though.
"Remember the conversation we had last night" Way to exclude the viewers...
"I don't want to see you go home with a blue" Well, duh!
(At 5 box) "you have 4 blues to aim at so you'll probably have an all blue round" 60%? Erm...
"How lucky are you feeling?" Like this matters. Not that annoying though.
"Really good offer but I think you've got one more round" After which the offer might be utter rubbish thus meaning it's not worth the risk? What is the advice here?
"you're only here once think about that" Yes, and that's why it's even worth Dealing in the first place - if you get multiple shots at the game you might as well Wakey it on the assumption that one of them will work out!
"you need to do what's right for you" That is indeed true. Can't argue with that.
"don't listen to any advice at the end of the day it's your decision!" This one doesn't annoy me at all.
"how much courage have you got?" How much faith in a badly-attired gambling addict have you got?

On balance, the 'I've got a feeling' one is the most annoying as it totally ignores everything except the Wakeyist pressure, but a close second is its near-opposite, 'good offer' on a bad one. Or I could have it both ways and... yes, I will. I'm voting for 'really good offer but I think you've got one more round' because it's so confused, so split and is a rare double example of respecting the offers/Banker and dismissing them all at once, which seems to be the split-personality approach encouraged in the show.

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James1978

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:16 pm    Author: James1978    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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I went for the 4 blues at 5-box one, but it's more a generalisation of when someone has a rubbish board saying that it's great andd in their favour that they have loads of blues to take out. It's naive at best! :)

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KP

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:41 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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Yes! Again, it's the Wakeyist spin-doctoring. It's another type of advice I blame Noel for!

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travis P

PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:59 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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To be fair, at least the 21 other folk are expressing something as advice to the contestant. As this production was based loosely on some European versions (France & Italy), the folks on the wings don't tend to give their advice and just open the box. The latest US syndicated version do offer advice from the other 25 people opening the cases, but the majority only give one piece of advice, no deal.


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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:12 am    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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I chose:

"Good offer (when it isn't), think about this one very carefully."

It annoys me when they say an offer's good and it obviously isn't. Most of the advice from the wings annoys me.


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Tom

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:05 pm    Author: Tom    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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The "Good Offer (when it isn't)" one.


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travis P

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:02 pm    Author: travis P    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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I always feel the good offer advice is debatable as folk on the show might say it's a good offer to suit that person. Obvivously, people disagree on here as they're placing the offer in comparison to the board, the fair deal value and the mean/average percentage but those who have played on the show don't look at stuff indepth and think a value could do something to their lives. Which is probably why the old man adapts his offers on the player as well as the board.


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KP

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:08 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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Well, quite. In that sense the advice is illuminating for displaying what the more typical people think of the game, as opposed to analytical-mathematical types.

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tr4962

PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:27 pm    Author: tr4962    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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the most annoying one is saying its a good offer when it isn't


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h2005

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 1:09 am    Author: h2005    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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I think most of what is said is only really said to give support to the contestants... which is why people say nonfactual things like "I think it's your lucky day".

But the one that I find rather frustrating is when people say an offer is generous when it's not! I also think talking about luck is dodgy territory, as no-one can predict luck.

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rico7

PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:15 am    Author: rico7    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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h2005 wrote:
I think most of what is said is only really said to give support to the contestants... which is why people say nonfactual things like "I think it's your lucky day".

But the one that I find rather frustrating is when people say an offer is generous when it's not! I also think talking about luck is dodgy territory, as no-one can predict luck.


I agree , it is very annoying when people say an offer is generous when it's rubbish! Not only that, but if I was the banker it would encourage me to continue making low offers for the board, and we've seen that happen especially in recent shows.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:17 pm    Author: Aaron Brock    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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"I don't want to see you go home with a blue." It's basically saying "You best *beep* deal or we'll all be *beep* crying in a minute..." It's forcing them to deal and I don't like it at all.

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CrazyChair

PostPosted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:01 am    Author: CrazyChair    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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It's not on the list, but it always annoys/amuses me when a contestant starts their sentence with "I don't want to influence you, but..." If you don't want to influence them, then say nothing!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:36 am    Author: melliemel    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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hahah!! I've said all of these at some point, in fact they have all been said by 'us' current lot!! lol!! :laughing :bluelol :laughing :bluelol :laughing :bluelol :laughing :bluelol :laughing :bluelol


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:00 am    Author: clareclw1    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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the one that gets me is...

"if you no deal this offer and then get the swap..."!!!!!!

whats that all about??? you have to think about the offer on the table, not the probability of getting a swap another 3 boxes down the line! and of course, as we know, lucky numbers dont always mean big wins!!! its very often the opposite!

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:16 am    Author: DanJudge    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings

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Anything where someone has a "feeling". I'll never know how someone can somehow get a spiritual link with a cardboard box. It's just silly in my eyes.

My second option would be saying it is a good offer when it isn't, but the one thing that annoyed me more than anything in the whole world is by saying that an offer is not very good and encouraging people to go on and take gambles that don't need to be taken. particularly if the offer is of a high amount which would make a huge difference to the players life and the person giving advice knows nothing of this and just wants to see reckless gambling............


...... I will say no more.......


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rico7

PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:35 am    Author: rico7    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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Anything where someone has a "feeling". I'll never know how someone can somehow get a spiritual link with a cardboard box. It's just silly in my eyes.

My second option would be saying it is a good offer when it isn't, but the one thing that annoyed me more than anything in the whole world is by saying that an offer is not very good and encouraging people to go on and take gambles that don't need to be taken. particularly if the offer is of a high amount which would make a huge difference to the players life and the person giving advice knows nothing of this and just wants to see reckless gambling............


...... I will say no more.......


Agree with all of that Dan, and I have to say your advice to the contestants has been excellent consistently.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:08 pm    Author: KP    Post subject: Re: Advice from the wings
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Agreed with - and worried by - what Dan said.

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